August, 15, 2007

Dutch bishop: Call God 'Allah' to ease relations
Roman Catholic leader stokes already heated debate on religion

Updated: 11:29 a.m. ET Aug. 15, 2007

AMSTERDAM - A Roman Catholic Bishop in the Netherlands has proposed people of all faiths refer to God as Allah to foster understanding, stoking an already heated debate on religious tolerance in a country with one million Muslims.

Bishop Tiny Muskens, from the southern diocese of Breda, told Dutch television on Monday that God did not mind what he was named and that in Indonesia, where Muskens spent eight years, priests used the word "Allah" while celebrating Mass.

"Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? ... What does God care what we call him? It is our problem." A survey in the Netherlands' biggest-selling newspaper De Telegraaf on Wednesday found 92 percent of the more than 4,000 people polled disagreed with the bishop's view, which also drew ridicule. "Sure. Lets call God Allah. Lets then call a church a mosque and pray five times a day. Ramadan sounds like fun," Welmoet Koppenhol wrote in a letter to the newspaper. Gerrit de Fijter, chairman of the Protestant Church in the Netherlands, told the paper he welcomed any attempt to "create more dialogue", but added: "Calling God 'Allah' does no justice to Western identity. I see no benefit in it."

A spokesman from the union of Moroccan mosques in Amsterdam said Muslims had not asReligious tensions on the rise Signs of tension had already surfaced in the last two weeks after the head of a committee for former Muslims was attacked and populist anti-immigration politician Geert Wilders called for the Koran to be banned. Bishop Muskens, who will shortly retire, has raised eyebrows in the past with suggestions that those who are hungry may steal bread and that condoms should be permissible in the fight against HIV and AIDS.

Some Dutch Muslims welcomed his comments as a valuable gesture of support coming just days after Wilders branded the Quran a "fascist book" in the vein of Adolf Hitler's "Mein Kampf" which legitimizes violence. Wilders, whose new party won nine seats out of the 150 in parliament in last November's elections, is well known for his firebrand remarks on Islam. He said an attack by two Moroccans and a Somali on the head of a Dutch group for "ex-Muslims" had spurred him to write.

Issues of immigration and integration had faded from the Dutch political agenda over the last year, after a period of unprecedented social tension sparked by the 2004 murder of Theo Van Gogh, a filmmaker critical of Islam, by a Muslim militant.



We Indonesian people have to admit that we have NO VOCABULARY for the Word: "GOD" and the first Indonesian Bible Translators WERE NOT Christians and they borrowed their moslems' vocabulary Ilah (GOD), but to differ the REAL GOD from the heathen gods / idols, they used THEIR OWN GOD's name to replace the name of YHVH. ALL "YHVH" VERY WORDS WERE ALL REMOVED FROM OUR LANGUAGE BIBLE and THEY REPLACED "YHVH" WITH ALLAH and made excuses that YAHUVEH (YHVH) is only a title and not a name, shame to you all.

a lot of YAH's Sheep in Indonesia HAVE STOPPED praying to 'Allah' and started praying to ELOHIM. you are deceiving the people out there without providing the background facts. I am one of those who have STOPPED praying to your Moon God, accept the fact that 'Allah' is one of the 365 Arabian gods!!!

may my comments would reach all the people who have ear to hear and have eyes to see. do not let yourself to be deceived!!!